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What happened to INTEGRITY in Photography!!!!

Posted on Monday, March 29, 2010 at 01:37PM by Registered Commenterkennethlinge | Comments10 Comments | References1 Reference

What happened to honesty and integrity!!! This is such a growing PROBLEM! We as teachers of photography need to make it very clear to students how shots can or should be used from shoot outs, seminars, workshops or whatever you choose to call it! Its great to post that you been attending a learning experience and show your clients you know that learning never ends and that you take your profession seriously, but then use overviews or indicate that it is not "your shot"! that you took it over the shoulder or standing next to the teacher??? Honesty PLEASE!

I have had many workshops all over the world where people as a part of the workshop get models to shoot, but then one on one with assistant(s) as needed under their instruction! Then it becomes their to use. Don't deceive clients and other people about who you are and what YOU are capable of and can do on your own!!! It should NOT be very hard for a "Photographer to be able to determine if they fully created, and image themselves or NOT! If in doubt maybe this guideline will help in deciding what is your work? I suggest you read Professional Photographers of Americas rules for entering their competition.  Here is one sample point # 5: No entry will be eligible that has been made under the supervision of an instructor or as a class assignment.

INTEGRITY PLEASE let's not ruin this great profession. It's getting very infected, SADLY!!!!! YES, I'm upset!!! (but I did wait 30 minutes to cool down after my upsetting surfing, which I should before I posted)

PS. Thank you my students for making sure you are writing it when it's a workshop shot. I always recommend my students take overviews in addition to the "similar shots as mine" they might choose to shoot.That combination is the best way to remember and learn from. I personally usually bring a little point and shoot to seminars I attend.

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Ah, but what about photographers that are brought in to shoot article portraits for major fashion magazines, where the entire concept has already been mapped out and brought together by art directors, wardrobe coordinators, and assistants? Should Annie Leibovitz get all the credit she does for her shots, even though she just shows up and pushes a button on a lot of days? I don't know, but she sure does.

Don't get me wrong, I'm personally not into swarm workshops where 20 people with cameras descend upon one subject, but I think that MANY photographers are guilty of this same offense in a different way on a daily basis.

March 29, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterAbbie Warnock

I dont think I agree with the poster over here. What they do are completely different, and even tough it may look like it, people like Annie don't just push a button, they also take part in creating the concept, the light, make up, wardrobe etc. The photographer is pretty much the one tying all these things together :=) Also, I agree with Kenneth, workshop images where people havent created the shot themselves (ie; shot over a shoulder) shouldnt be used in portfolioes etc(atleast not without context).

March 29, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterOle M

Photographing an concept that was created by an art director can still be art if the photographer treats it as such. Just because Mozart, Brahms, or Vaughan-Williams wrote beautiful music, does not mean that the orchestra and the conductor interpreting the notes on the page are not master artists. In fact, I think it takes a great artists to come up with a personal interpretation. A conductor could show up and wave his arms and keep the beat, but that would not be art. The same goes for a photographer, interpreting the idea of a designer.

March 29, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterTom Sparks

Great comments that makes you think, appreciate the participation.

March 29, 2010 | Registered Commenterkennethlinge

The big take away is that credit should be given when credit is due. Annie doesn't get all the credit, because the art directors, designers, hair and make-up people, etc are also credited for their work. They may not get top billing but there names usually appear somewhere when the photo is published. If you take a photo as part of a workshop it should include text next to it that indicates as much. I agree with Kenneth on that point.

April 2, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterSam Scholes

By the way, what made you so made Kenneth? Care to share the address?

April 2, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterSam Scholes

I agree 100%. I personally don't post photography seminar images lest they take away from my credibility. Plus, folks will expect me to repeat that type of work on their wedding, which may not necessarily be my style.

I'm still trying to understand what was in this post. With the combination of words together I got the main idea... I'm not a grammar nazi but I had a hard time understanding what you were talking about.

May 13, 2010 | Unregistered Commenterphotog

Some people have a very hard time understanding things if it is not put in the exact words and the way they speak and the local news station speak. I speak 5 languages, and english is NOT number one (or as you will understand better, IT IS NOT MY FIRST LANGUAGE!),and never will be. Sometimes I have people edit blogs for me sometimes not. I kind of prefer the none perfect english as long as people understands me, that is more personal. Photographers around the world KNOW I'm Norwegian! The people that ever have problems with my english, seems to be older and don't speak a second language, not travelled much, used to hear different accents, languages. Thanks for your input. PS.Another reason you might not understand it is because MAYBE you are one of the people doing what I am talking about? :-) PSS. I would have sent this directly to you "photog" if you would post comments with an e-mail or web address like 99% of people do. I made NO effort to correct my english in this response. Jeg synes du er uhøflig og må vaere trangsynt, hvis du ikke kan forstå meg, eller kansje du bare har noe imot meg :-) Kenneth ( spelled correct)

May 14, 2010 | Registered Commenterkennethlinge

Photography as a hobby. Because it is easier to get involve on it. You can get camaras and other things pretty cheap and they don't know about the science that it is behind it. Online pharmacy reviews when it does its reviews it tries to add that kind of information.

October 20, 2011 | Unregistered CommenterPeter Gray

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